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American Gods

Posted in Lost Gods with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on September 27, 2010 by ellocogringo

American Gods is a Hugo and Nebula Award-winning novel by Neil Gaiman. The novel is a blend of Americana, fantasy, and various strands of ancient and modern mythology, all centering on a mysterious and taciturn protagonist, Shadow.  AGWiki I haven’t read this yet but here’s the download.  American Gods.  And here’s a blow by blow analysis.  ForgottenGod And here’s the 1st of 12 online readings.  AmericanGods This book is to gothic what “whole lotta love” is to acid rock”
This guy’s got an interesting take on it.  “The mainstream concept of considering religious diversity and its negative effect on mankind as a social enigma, and attempting to find ways of making it work cohesively, has been, and is a total failure. But, the logical approach of attempting to discover the truth behind the phenomenon of multiple gods, and examining alternative explanations for it is ignored. A practical approach is to consider the alternatives and determine the logic of each of the possible reasons for this diversity.” WorldsGods As does the theosophical society.  Theosophy holds that all religions are attempts by the “Spiritual Hierarchy” to help humanity in evolving to greater perfection, and that each religion therefore has a portion of the truth   Theosophy Research ChrystalLinks is an excellent website for exploration in this area.  Have we entered the dawn of the age of aquarius ?  5thDimension This is getting spooky. Shadow appears to be the one I refer to as stranger, and Helga refers to as spectre in atenonol dreams.  This is a triple hit, enough to elevate Schrödinger’s “one mind” from “could be” to “best answer to date” .  Anybody have any thoughts on that?  Weird shit man.  GoogleBooks

“More than a tourist in America, but not a native, Neil Gaiman offers an outside-in and inside-out perspective on the soul and spirituality of the country–our obsessions with money and power, our jumbled religious heritage and its societal outcomes, and the millennial decisions we face about what’s real and what’s not.” –Therese Littleton “Religions are, by definition, metaphors, after all: God is a dream, a hope, a woman, an ironist, a father, a city, a house of many rooms, a watchmaker who left his prize chronometer in the desert, someone who loves you-even, perhaps, against all evidence, a celestial being whose only interest is to make sure your football team, army, business, or marriage thrives, prospers and triumphs over all opposition.  Religions are places to stand and look and act, vantage points from which to view the world.” – American Gods p508

Is this in fact the dawning of the age of aquarius? Monkey see, monkey do? There may well be a “critical mass” required to shift a new behavior from being a fragile personal idiosyncrasy to being a well-established alternative, but creating a new alternative does not automatically displace older alternatives. It just provides more choices. It is possible that the washing alternative established by the monkeys on Koshima Island did create a morphogenetic field that made it easier for monkeys on other islands to “discover” the same technique, but the actual research neither supports nor denies that idea. It remains for other cultural experiments and experiences to illuminate this question.

The 100th monkey phenomenon is supposed to kick in when 1/3 of the population achieves awareness.  There definitely is something to this. The same phenomenon was observed in the Mogabi zoo, where chimps were observed washing cats prior to stuffing them down the garbage disposal, saving on plumbing bills. (Note picture above) The practice has since spread to all zoos. From what I have seen so far,  from the end of the ice age, our connectedness has been systematically destroyed leaving us as mindless robots, swarming in this ant warren of a society we live in.   

“It is not in the nature of man–nor of any living entity–to start out by giving up, by spitting in one’s own face and damning existence; that requires a process of corruption whose rapidity differs from man to man. Some give up at the first touch of pressure; some sell out; some run down by imperceptible degrees and lose their fire, never knowing when or how they lost it. Then all of these vanish in the vast swamp of their elders who tell them persistently that maturity consists of abandoning one’s mind; security, of abandoning one’s values; practicality, of losing self-esteem. Yet a few hold on and move on, knowing that that fire is not to be betrayed, learning how to give it shape, purpose and reality. But whatever their future, at the dawn of their lives, men seek a noble vision of man’s nature and of life’s potential. …” – Ayn Rand

“And then the man who bears the pitcher will walk across an arc of heaven. The sign and signet of the Son of man stands forth in the eastern sky. The wise will then lift up their heads and know that the redemption of the earth is near” – Bible “What lies ahead for Humanity? With all the problems we have, it’s hard to believe our future is bright. Inflation and recession, environmental deterioration, diminishing resources, unrest and oppression in developing countries, and apathy, loneliness and lack of direction in developed ones all combine to severely cloud the horizon…It may seem fantastic, but the signs in the heavens point to an extraordinary renewal in the years just ahead. If we recall some recent trends, this prospect doesn’t seem so outlandish. It wasn’t too long ago that we heard about the dawning of the Age of Aquarius, and about the revival of spirit among the new generation. We can still hear the echoes of John Kennedy’s call to action and see the vision of Martin Luther King’s dream. Before he and his dream were shot down in 1968, he said we as a people “would get to the promised land.” The promise seems empty now, yet the planetary cycles support his prophecy. For what we discover when we examine these cycles is compelling evidence that a renaissance and a golden age is right around the corner.”

But with the we inside of me, I can see man in all his glory and depravity.  The gift has a dark side. Hope and foreboding coexist. Kumbaya Or maybe the age of aquarius will be a self fulfilling prophecy.  Or….. maybe I’m full of shit, I am crazy, don’t you know?   The problem, in my minds, is that neither of these views can be elevated to “best answer to date”.  Dunno. Troubling.


I left this for the webmaster at forgotten gods.
You would be doing a disservice to mankind if you were to reveal the name of the forgotten god. It is the quest, not the arriving that is important. I speak to that obliquely here>  Epiphany Express
it is the grail in percival
I call it the key to ANN.
Learning makes it profound, teaching makes it trite.
The Forgotten God, like the vedic scripts, and the bible, and folklore, myths, legends are not to be taken literally. After all, what’s a meta phor?
The forgotten god is unique to each individual and profound, else it is dogma and trite. that is the whole point.
neil cautioned you on this here> Please don’t reveal the identity of the god/folkloric entity that people always forget,
so let’s keep it our little secret.

The Age of Aquarius

When the moon is in the seventh house And jupiter aligns with mars The peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars This is the dawning of the age of aquarius Harmony and understanding Sympathy and trust abounding No more falsehoods or derisions Golden living dreams of visions Mystic crystals revelations And the minds true liberation Aquarius

The three legged stool

Posted in The Minds with tags , , , , , , , , on June 17, 2010 by ellocogringo


Plato’s Mobile Centering 4

I have a logical dilema.  I know that we have two cognitive minds.  It is entirely possible with this model that nothing external to me exists, so that the entire universe is an elaborate hoax set up to trick me.  Somehow, that doesn’t sound reasonable.  In ref to secret 1 & 2,  I’m not happy with what he says, but it does say “it ain’t real” in terms an idiot can understand. in finding fault which I agree with, he speaks of electrical signals. if you’re going to think of it in those terms, the brain is chemical, the “signals” are the effect, not the cause. I was thinking of stripping the sound off, and overlaying my own or just strip the sound off period.

as to how the hell do we get from ourselves as inclusions in the universe to local objects with internal sensing and interpretation equipment?

aye, there’s the rub. In my model, which is truth to me and speculation to you, there are 3 things in play. right mind, left mind and reality. We have two ways of looking at the world. through the tunnel of mainstream physics electrons/space describes “what’s out there”. a totally inadequate view. It is our interpretation of our perception of the electron and the perception of space yields the normal dual interpretation that space is the aggregate and accumulate sum of the electrons. But this is only our perception of “what’s out there”. the same is true for every tunnel I’ve looked through. So……you could say that our perception of ourself in relation to our perception of society is not SOCIETY. IE it is inside the skull. A little disambiguation is in order. So anytime a “dual” view of anything is presented, I wonder where the other element is. If you say intrinsic/extrinsic for instance, It seems to me like a three legged stool with one leg missing. If you intend extrinsic to mean right mind (our perception of what’s out there)., that leaves unanswered “what’s out there?” (that’s where I’m at) If you intend it to mean “what’s out there” that causes me to wonder what happened to your right mind. Genetic defect, amputation, or idiot? for whatever reason it ain’t working. we have to be looking through a tunnel unless we can fit the universe inside the skull, in which case we can make up our own rules. as to “one mind”, this is speculation only, which i tend to agree with, leaves unanswered the question “what is the quantum mind?” I have two hits on the molecule. not inconsistent. If true, there is a tiny bit of mind in each molecule which in the aggregate would make up the “one mind” so they are the same. BUT the one mind and the quantum mind are only inside the skull merely being our perception of “what’s out there” looked at through the mind tunnel. at this scale we would be about half way between the quantum mind and the one mind. The mind analyzes “what’s out there” in two modes which would fully explain everything I have seen. In this case the endpoints set by the tunnel are artifacts, and MAY not reflect reality. whether the universe is infinite or not depends on this and the best we can hope for is “the universe is infinite, as far as we can tell” I don’t think this “one mind” gives a shit what this semi-mini mind thinks about it. The brain itself perceives and interprets in exactly the same way, with the output determined by worldview. why should intrinsic/extrinsic be any different? so we’re back to the yin/yang wars.

Or…. an alternative interpretation, I could be full of shit, I am crazy, don’t you know?