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pod racer

Posted in TD/BU with tags , , , , , , , on September 12, 2010 by ellocogringo

Star Wars Episode I Phantom menance. I have heard my ANN model compared to centered with both pipelines going. The Star Wars jet pod racer comes to mind. Not unlike my chariot model with the matched team. The full statement was “how do we get to this state, centered with both pipelines going? This is more about what it ain’t than what it is. You don’t cripple the pipelines with ideology. Don’t put governors on the pods, don’t hobble the horses.

To keep from getting confused, I’ll name these two pods finesse and power.

walt

Field of leaves

Posted in The Minds with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on September 11, 2010 by ellocogringo

Consider an old cash register. (This is actually the image eLG gives me). There is no calculation going on. You move the appropriate lever and the appropriate leaf pops up. It doesn’t have anything to do what what is printed on the leaf or the key. Which leaf pops up is dependent on the position of the key. It ain’t thinking, it just is. Topeka

The image I get from eLG is the right mind is a “field of leaves” (except 3 dimensional) and the left mind runs a metaphorical hand over this metaphorical field of leaves looking for non-inconsistency. if a leaf is popped up, (inconsistent) it sets off the bullshit detector. and SHOULD (if not hijacked) flip over to the bottom up mode.Keeping in mind that we are talking metaphorically about about this stuff, the leaves are just flux in the tensors of the right mind. And a leaf corresponds to a phase shift relating to a consistency or inconsistency depending on phase shift. The third dimension (metaphorical remember) the fourth dimension would give the other two states, not consistent or not inconsistent. for the 4 way boolean network. This would be happening at the dendrite level (logic) synced with but separate from the axon level (perception) If I understand eLG correctly, this is a pretty good 2 dimensional represention of the 3 dimensional process going on in the right mind, Plato’s mythos. This is in the frequency domain.I am talking about concepts here, or thoughts, or symbols, the word doesn’t really exist that describes it exactly nor can they. This analysis is what I would class as “this idea seems to work”, better than “could be” but not yet “best answer to date”. So If I’m understanding this correctly, this is musing (collating, freq domain), with the left mind analyzing, (time domain) This process does not normally occur at a conscious level, but is continually going on in the background. (sub-conscious) our actions being dictated by pre-surmised shortcuts <1/2 second, and then accessing 3 1/2 to 7 seconds. Rarely museing, “head up ass mode” The amplitude being determined by the reticulator. It can be negative remember, so the graphic would show the arrows going the other way.

This is an evaluation of a perception of what what Mr Ted calls the “great mysterious” (reality)

Two realtively simple processes, not one complex one

We only think we’re thinking.

This is really squishy here. It is incredibly difficult to find the words.

As an aside, I “knew” to type in animated flux when looking for the graphic. How? first hit. I’ve never used that word in that context. Schrodinger’s “one mind”?

blind spot

Posted in Travel with tags , , , , , , on September 11, 2010 by ellocogringo

Blind Spot

The human eye has a blind spot where the optic nerve goes back into your brain. You normally don’t notice it because your other eye and brain compensate to fill in the missing information. The brain can also be confused by the above image. It is static, but your brain interprets it as moving. ScotomaIn like manner the mind has a logical blind spot. You can be looking right at something and not see it. And like the optical blind spot the minds “fill in the blanks” so that the picture seems complete. Everyone has these “blind spots”, depends on imprinting. A person with an aboriginal world view will have a blind spot  in conceptualizing my european worldview. My blind spot is in conceptualizing the aboriginal world view. The crucial point is that I know I have this blind spot, he doesn’t.  OrangesVerbese essays with myriad authorative quotes only obfuscate the issue. The issue being that the mind’s logical processes are fundamentally flawed. It is crucial that homo sapiens understand this or we will become homo extinctus. There is, however, one blind spot I do NOT have. One that afflicts 99.953% of the population. (heyleighn estimate) This blindspot is the failure to recognize the slogan on the top of the page. i.e. the overwhelming majority of people think and act as if there were a single cognitive operation going on inside the skull, convoluted, contradictory, complex and twisted. Ain’t so. There are two relative simple processes going on. I have met 3 in my lifetime. I know of a few others. Plato was one. A credible contemporary one is Jill Bolte Taylor. Be sure to watch “stroke of insight” at the bottom ChrysalisThese people must be found, nurtured and protected. Their insight is desperately needed. This is the most important issue facing mankind today. And I don’t know what to do about it. There’s things we know

Things we know we don’t know

Things we don’t know we don’t know

And things we know that ain’t so

That last one will bite you in the ass

Mach

Posted in TD/BU with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on September 9, 2010 by ellocogringo

Ernst

Mach

>What these fools did, as Mach has said, was to save their successors the trouble of thinking. If they had worked solely in view of an immediate application, they would have left nothing behind them, and in face of a new requirement, all would have had to be done again. Now the majority of men do not like thinking, and this is perhaps a good thing, since instinct guides them, and very often better than reason would guide a pure intelligence, at least whenever they are pursuing an end that is immediate and always the same. But instinct is routine, and if it were not fertilized by thought, it would advance no further with man than with the bee or the ant. It is necessary, therefore, to think for those who do not like thinking, and as they are many, each one of our thoughts must be useful in as many circumstances as possible. For this reason, the more general a law is, the greater is its value.
Mr T>it gives me another way of looking at the problems in our society. i think that our KISS habit amounts to an ‘economy of words’. the economy of thought is moving us towards ‘everything is One’ while the economy of words is moving us to jargon whose individual words unfold into a story and each person reading them has to supply their own version of the story. within the story are many more words, whose meaning is of the same vintage as when those who do not like thinking were told what they meant.
Mach, in this snippit has made a couple of logic flaws.
1) He seems to feel that There is one thing happening inside the skull and one outside.
2) He has not considered all the possibilities.
call it extrinsic/intrinsic, whatever
As to 1) there are two things happening inside the skull and one outside.
As to 2) there are 4 possibilities, not 2.

Inside the skull are two processes, top down and bottom up
top down (binary, serial, whatever) leads him to believe there are people who like to think and people who don’t.
1) people who like to think
2) people who don’t.
This is, in and of itself, kiss thinking.
As I see it (boolean, parallel whatever)
HOWEVER, if you work the logic both ways (bottom up) there are 4 possibilities.
1) people who like to think
2) people who don’t
3) people who won’t
4) people who can’t
both views are valid, but bottom up is the more complete. By complete, i mean we have reached the limit of mankinds cognitive abilities. (inside the skull only, which may not be an absolute limit.)
for instance, you contrast thought and words, you seem to be mixing oranges and orangutans.
thinking contrasts with musing
words contrasts with symbols.
thinking goes with words
musing goes with symbols

It’s an equation with these parameters. Philosophy, simply put, is a seemingly endless debate over what side of the equals sign to put the parameters on. A worldview is just different words used to describe these parameters, and determine the right and wrong side of the equals sign to put these words on.
Oranges and orangutans is an interesting topic by the way, I’ll do a post on them. Oranges

Pair a dimes

Posted in TD/BU with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , on September 9, 2010 by ellocogringo

Paradigm
shift in
thinking
required

>there is no reason that a western person can’t see things the same way and intuitively he does (‘what goes around comes around’

This conclusion is false. A western person can know but not understand. Mr Ted understands and knows. His approach appears to be to differentiate lesser minds who are speculating only rather than integrating HIS own concepts into HIS framework in terms HE can understand so as to be able to communicate. This appears to me to be like trying to explain calculus to an uneducated person by using pebbles. A considerable task indeed when you consider that most physicists don’t understand calculus. I feel that there is much to be gained in helping him in his quest.
>”I’m trying to imagine a science fiction movie in which large numbers of humans shifted their thinking to bring it more into alignment with what you’re suggesting. Perhaps it’s inaccurate to suggest humans would be responsible for this shift. However it happens, what would it look like I wonder?”

AE van Vogt, the world of Null A (non-aristotelian)

But yes, a new way of thinking is required, but I don’t see how this can be accomplished in the numbers necessary to enable the momentum required to shift mankind’s course. we need to get past how we think, and look instead at how we think about thinking. I’ve been trying to figure this out for 65 years without success. Somebody once commented, Eddington I think, “once we figure out that one and one is two, we think we understand. We forget we need to analyze “and”. No matter how eloquent the words, no matter how irrefutable the facts, no matter how impecable the logic, no matter how noble the cause, You know that they can’t hear you. Not in any way. There are no neurons there.

squishy

Posted in The Minds with tags , , , , , on September 5, 2010 by ellocogringo

Lost in the fog

I’ve been working with computers since about 1970, mostly mini-computers like the VAX 11-780 (left), RDS500, and SEL.  

I also had a TI PPC which I got dirt cheap when TI went out of the computer business. It was really quite nice but didn’t work with anything but itself, I had to program it myself.  I sold it at a garage sale and got $50, and I consider myself fortunate. TI PPC

The first affordable ($200) Personal Computer was the Timex-Sinclair which had games like tic-tac-toe, chess, checkers, battleship, and various “adventure” games, text based they usually started out with (fill in the blank) is lost in the fog.

Which brings me to why I’m babbling about computers.  The majority of people are lost in the fog and don’t know it, the majority of the remainder are lost in the fog and don’t care. And a very few are lost in the fog and know it.  A quality of communication I call “squishy”.  For reasons I am not entirely clear on, I am aware of squishy.

To explain it I will re-define a few words.  First, reality. Reality is real.  Call it universe, great mysterious, god, space time continuum, Tao, ether if you prefer, doesn’t matter. It’s just a word for something that won’t fit inside our skulls. This seems obvious to me but apparently not to others.

Now we leave the land of reality and enter the land of squishy. (inside the skull)  Nothing here is real.  We see and we think about what we see.

As to what we see I’ll call yin and yang (it’s kinda close) the yin being the perception of reality and yang being the interpretation of reality.

As to what we think about what we see I’ll call mythos and logos (it’s kinda close)  Mythos being what we muse about yin and logos being what we think about yang.

The logos and mythos are compared and used to make a decision on what we do about yin and yang.  None of this is reality.  Reality, and only reality, is real.

The squishy occurs with the yin and mythos part of this operation, with various duality views confusing one or the other or both but mostly neither for reality. (if they bother to think about it)

Most people are not aware of yin and mythos. (idiots) Most of the remainder don’t care.  (centered) But a few, a very few do.   (transcedents)

Is this really that complicated?  Try to keep your eye on the ball.

And I repeat, Mr Ted, You’re too much in your head, you’re overthinking this.  Keep in mind I do agree with what  you’re saying, you’re just incomplete.  You’ve replaced the concepts with words.  The word is not the concept.  This is a new kind of squishy to me.  Fascinating.

Battlestar

Posted in Lost Gods with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on August 31, 2010 by ellocogringo

Road Less Traveled

This is a take off of the poem by David Frost, there’s quite a bit of stuff here.  The premise is that sometimes the more difficult choice is the better choice.  The episode has quite a following.  With good reason I think.  These are a few links.  Pop your popcorn.

The Road Less Traveled is the seventh episode in the fourth season of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica. It first aired on television on May 2, 2008.

Gaius Baltar to Galen Tyrol about his conversion to a believer:
“I know it’s hard to…make sense of things sometimes. In my own life, I…in my own life I’ve joined the fleet as a scientist, as a skeptic, as a…supposedly a man of reason. Only to have fate turn that all on its head. But I understand now that there is a purpose to it. We change. We evolve. Maybe we even learn something along the way. (pauses) I have committed…unconscionable crimes. And I have been offered one last chance at redemption, because I chose to accept my fate and not fight it anymore.”
This is the episode perdition (eternal Damnation)  Awesome  I’ve got it set to cycle through the episodes. I’ll be back later, the popcorn’s ready   battlestar RoadLessTraveled BattleWikia