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Mythophage

Posted in Circular with tags , , , , , on October 15, 2010 by ellocogringo

Mythophage

A cocatonation of Mythos (plato) and phage (parasite)

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The Blind Spot Afflicts 99.953% of the population. An extiction maker.

The Lattice – Block on constructivist thinking. Imposed by education to force conformist thinking.

The Taboo – on pride. Imposed by religion and upbringing. Imposes subservience.

Centering – has been disrupted by the efforts of others to control us

Misogyny – Discourages “woman think”

Mr Sid thinks of it as the left mind being noun driven and thr right mind being verb driven. LifeIsAVerb

Mr Ted thinks of it as conjugate pairs SingleDime

(1949) is a book by the philosopher Gilbert Ryle. In it, he describes what he saw as a “fundamental mistake” made by Descartesdualism, which underlies much of western philosophy. In the work, Ryle coined the phrase, “the dogma of the ghost in the machine,” to refer to Descartes’ model.

The fundamental error, according to Ryle, is a category mistake made when philosophers talk about mind and matter as if they were, “… terms of the same logical type.” Ryle claims that while it makes sense to talk about mental processes and events, that the

“… phrase ‘there occur mental processes’ does not mean the same sort of thing as ‘there occur physical processes,’ and, therefore, that it makes no sense to conjoin or disjoin the two.”

For Ryle, Cartesian dualism mistakenly assumes it is sensible to ask of a given cause, process, or event, whether it is mental or physical (with the implication that it cannot be both). ConceptOfMind

Getting it less wrong Paul Grobstein Pragmatism

If all this stuff is known, why is everyone so dumb?

 

Road to ruin

Posted in Cosmos with tags , , , , , , , on October 13, 2010 by ellocogringo

Perdition

Mr Ted>why can’t you just study the behaviour of the plant on its own without cluttering the experiment with earth, air, fire [heat] and water?

Plato>In classical thought, the four elements Earth, Water, Air, and Fire

Frost>Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both

eLG>Plato forgot to tell Aristotle earth, wind, fire and water come from Aether

At this point in history we took the wrong road.

This is the problem people. Everything since plato is wrong. Everything. Nothing is salvageable. Nothing. W e must go back to this point in history and start thinking outside the box.  Am I the only one that can see this?

“Perceiving What Others Do Not Perceive” – Mary Somerville

Experiment

Top Down/Bottom Up

Posted in TD/BU with tags , , , , , , , , , on October 10, 2010 by ellocogringo

TD/BU

I know NOTHING” – Schultz, Hogan’s Heros

Bottom up thinking makes NO assumptions. “It is obvious that” has no place in bottom up thinking. Nothing is taken for granted. This is fuzzy logic (bottom up thinking) Which can be “The best answer to date” (level 1), “This idea seems to work for the moment” (level 2) or the less definitive “Could be” (Level 3)

I am painting with a broad brush here. So as not to bloat the concepts, I will omit the exceptions, special cases and disclaimers.

Fuzzy logic is a form of multi-valued logic derived from fuzzy set theory to deal with reasoning that is approximate rather than precise. In contrast with “crisp logic”, where binary sets have binary logic, the fuzzy logic variables may have a membership value of not only 0 or 1 – that is, the degree of truth of a statement can range between 0 and 1 and is not constrained to the two truth values of classic propositional logic. Oh Really!, you think so huh?

In fact what is accepted as truth in top down thinking is only Level 1 as determined by bottom up thinking. It is NEVER complete, and could be entirely wrong if hijacked by religion, education or other societal programming. If this societal programming occurs during the critical period of growth (birth-age 7 or puberty) it can become imprinting, a PERMANENT inability of the mind to accept new concepts. A person can know, but not understand a concept that does not fit into this framework. They become idiots (not used as a pejorative but as a clinical term, I am, after all, striving to be professional) The implications of this imprinting are profound. Bottom up thinking is regarded as psychotic by mental health and meta-physical bullshit by the general population. Not only is creativity crushed by this imprinting but it has resulted in a society composed of zombies (stupid people, doing stupid things for stupid reasons) living a meaningless existence in an ant warren.
An example of this is physics, in which the nature of the universe being of a wave nature is known but not understood. To date I am aware of a dozen people who understand, and half of them are dead. Some of the live ones are;
Ted Lumley>http://goodshare.org/wp/whats-the-matter/
Gabriel LaFreniere> http://glafreniere.com/sa_electron.htm
Milo Wolff> http://www.quantummatter.com/
Consider the following discussion between Chief Dan George, Erwin Schrodinger and Albert Einstein on the wave nature of the universe.
http://goodshare.org/wp/whats-the-matter/
The question was posed “is space making electrons or are electrons making space?”
Automatically excluded were the possibilities of both or neither. This is the “brain fart” a built in logic flaw in the brain.
The answer is NOT A or B but both or neither.
Please note I am not speaking of physics here, I am speaking of thinking of physics.
http://www.divshare.com/direct/12610892-4f8.pdfI recently became interested in the aboriginal framework of reasoning. I have heard it described as circular reasoning.
Circular reasoning is an attempt to support a statement by simply repeating the statement in different or stronger terms. In this fallacy, the reason given is nothing more than a restatement of the conclusion that poses as the reason for the conclusion.
I don’t see it that way, I see it as “wheels within wheels” and not even “what goes around comes around” but “what goes around comes around goes around etc”. For instance a 260 day calendar would seem to make no sense unless one considers that the gestation period is 260 days. Thus if a woman conceived on Tzolkin 10 she could expect the birth on Tzolkin 10, As this was synchronized with the Haab (365 day calendar) no calculation was needed. This imprinting is canabilastic in nature, like the zombie, it want’s to eat your brains. It is the Ayn Rand Beast.
Consider the Protohuman “Charlie Chimp” in the paleolithic, considering whether he should bonk Polly protohuman. Using top down thinking the answer comes out in a simplified, non-nuanced yes or no. However, As Charlie hasn’t had the social imprinting to mess up his mind, he can use another logic method. Bottom up, a weighted Boolean network with possibilities of yes, no, or maybe. The weighting aspect is an aggregate and accumulative bias. Most simply explained by the logic tree “The last time I bonked Polly protohuman, how many times did the alpha male hit me, and how hard?” Charlie compares the bottom up and top down logic and makes a decision on whether his genetic heritage will be carried on through Polly. Very useful as a bullshit detector. “Is what this guy babbling about consistent with my previous experience?” From an assholes point of view, this bullshit detector must be turned off so as to brainwash the idiot. Painting with a broad brush, “education put the sub in subconscious”, was preceded by “religion put the sub in subconscious” preceded by “the alpha male put the sub in subconscious”. (I have a fear that if I talk like an idiot I may start thinking like one.) People have lost the ability to say Bullshit!

Moving right along, when my bullshit detector goes off, I discard ALL logic and view input as data only until the issue is resolved. I have discarded all physics as speculation. It doesn’t even pass the “could be” test. It’s bullshit. Godel’s model has less bullshit than most, but it’s still bullshit. (I suspect that he may understand what he’s saying and is trying to communicate with idiots). All of his twisted logic and convoluted math doesn’t prove or disprove anything. All he has done is twist and stretch the rubber ruler till it matches observed data. My observation on this matter has been that knowledge is inversely proportional to understanding. “Stupid may be catching” – el Loco Gringo From an egocentric point of view, the disjuncture occurs inside the skull, this difference between a perception of reality and the interpretation of same. As far as I can see, the vast majority of speculation on the output side is bullshit. On the input side all I have to work with is a filtered perception. This filtered perception leads me to conclude that it has a rotational aspect (perceived) and has a beat of 8 (is recursive with a harmonic of 8) That it is vibrations and is negentropic seems too obvious to discuss. There is overwhelming evidence that it is and nothing but “common sense” that says it isn’t. I am shocked that you consider “rotating vectors” a notion. Granted it’s a kludge, but it’s the best kludge available (to date) The entire industrialized civilization is built around this kludge. By filtered I mean that we do not have input across the entire spectrum. For instance, you turn on a radio and music comes out. There is obviously something invisible happening. Depending on one’s world view, this could be interpreted as magic, god, nirvana, whatever. (Actually I kind of like the idea of god, if there is one there is no evidence he gives a shit about man, one way or the other) If the universe is harmonic vibrations, it logically follows that time, color, touch, and sound are the minds way of making sense of motion, (time) non-motion, (touch) vibrations in the 20-20khz range (sound) and 300-700Thz. (color) Every one knows it but no one understands it. It should be obvious once it is pointed out, but it isn’t to most people. Why?

In fact what is accepted as truth in top down thinking is only Level 1 as determined by bottom up thinking. It is NEVER complete, and could be entirely wrong if hijacked by religion, education or other societal programming. If this societal programming occurs during the critical period of growth (birth-age 7 or puberty) it can become imprinting, a PERMANENT inability of the mind to accept new concepts. A person can know, but not understand a concept that does not fit into this framework. They become idiots (not used as a pejorative but as a clinical term, I am, after all, striving to be professional) The implications of this imprinting are profound. Bottom up thinking is regarded as psychotic by mental health and meta-physical bullshit by the general population. Not only is creativity crushed by this imprinting but it has resulted in a society composed of zombies (stupid people, doing stupid things for stupid reasons) living a meaningless existence in an ant warren.Circular reasoning is an attempt to support a statement by simply repeating the statement in different or stronger terms. In this fallacy, the reason given is nothing more than a restatement of the conclusion that poses as the reason for the conclusion.I don’t see it that way, I see it as “wheels within wheels” and not even “what goes around comes around” but “what goes around comes around goes around etc”. For instance a 260 day calendar would seem to make no sense unless one considers that the gestation period is 260 days. Thus if a woman conceived on Tzolkin 10 she could expect the birth on Tzolkin 10, As this was synchronized with the Haab (365 day calendar) no calculation was needed.

This imprinting is canabilastic in nature, like the zombie, it want’s to eat your brains. It is the Ayn Rand Beast. “There is a slavering beast devouring the mind of man. You know that no matter how eloquent the words, how impecable the logic, how irrefutable the facts, it can’t be reached, not in any way. There is no mind there” – Ayn Rand I call it the abyss, IE all words fall into the abyss. I like beast better Consider the Cheshire cat in Alice in Wonderland, perhaps the greatest treatise on philosophy ever written. When queried on which road to take, he responded “Well, if you don’t know where you’re going it doesn’t much matter which path you take” And this is, in fact, where we are when trying to figure something out. WE DON’T KNOW WHERE WE’RE GOING. To start with the answer and work our way back to the question is insane. Can’t anyone else see that?

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Notice

Posted in The Minds with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on September 21, 2010 by ellocogringo

Notice

The inconsistincies

Mr T always gets me thinking,

Evolution

Posted in Society with tags , , , , , on September 17, 2010 by ellocogringo

Society

“What would Charlie do?” – el Loco Gringo

 

Introducing the metaphorical Charlie Chimp. He is on the cusp of becoming human, living in a world full of new and dangerous things. Having recently abandoned his arboreal existence, he now wanders the savannas of Africa with his mate Polly Protohuman. The behavior patterns he learned in the jungle no longer are effective on the open savanna. “A-hah! He says, I’ll evolve an ANN that can control algorithms. That way I’ll be able to deal with these new threats in a timely manner”.

It is necessary to consider the anthropological origins of our behavior to understand why we behave as we do. After all, it is one thing to chuck rocks across a stream at a rival clan, it is quite another to chuck ICBMs across an ocean at a rival clan. Just as Charlie no longer lives in the jungle, we no longer live in the paleolithic. But we act as if we do. Heres a link to download naked ape. Still a good book.

So what happened? Our intrepid band of chimps has been time warped into the present, bringing their survival skills with them. It is no longer the paleolithic but it’s the same society. The alpha male has morphed into an ideology. The band has morphed into a hyper-tribe and the cohesion of the band has been lost. He no longer has a band to be loyal to. As he has evolved to live in a band of less than 150, the hyper-tribe is an abstraction. The lion has morphed into corporations to prey on him. He has evolved to be a slave. One thing that has not changed though, the hyper males that have taken over this system still get most of the poon-tang and bananas. As long as the hyper-males can keep the chimps fighting among themselves, this will continue.

ChimpWar AntWar

From the beginning of life to the paleolithic, there was only one way for an organism to experience the universe. That was in the frequency domain. In the frequency domain there is no color, there is no time, there is no sound. There is only vibrations and there is only now. These vibrations are rotational in nature with a beat of 8 and are negentropic. Howsoever, the hominid line developed/evolved/had created (whatever) a separate mind, (left hemisphere) separated from but interconnected and synergistic with the original mind. HUMANS HAVE TWO COGNITIVE MINDS. One operating in the frequency domain (right), the second using a reduced set of the frequency domain which we call the time domain (left). This reduced set gave humans an evolutionary edge over animals, But we have lost the ability to experience the world in the frequency domain, making it difficult to understand. Thus we are left with a quantification of an interpretation of a perception. No wonder, we’re measuring shadows with a rubber ruler. In other words, it ain’t real.

The concept of “two cognitative minds” seems to turn some people off, so I’ll try another analogy. How ’bout a dual core computer. One chip is programmed with a boolean network, the other with a binary network. Each performs different logical operations on the same input. The perception is interpreted with two logic trees and compared. This comparison yields an answer. Thus what appeared to be a convoluted logic tree turns out to be two chips, using two logic patterns performing very simple calculations, (to the individual chip) to yield a synergistic answer that seems akin to magic from the outside. (Yeah, I know two sentient computer chips sounds suspiciously like two cognitive minds. Can’t be helped. the further one gets from reality, the less reality there is.) The difficulty lies in being able to wrap your head around the dual nature of the mind(s). Once that is accepted, it really is just that simple.

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TD/BU

Posted in Cosmos with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on September 15, 2010 by ellocogringo

TD/BU

Top Down vs Bottom up thinking
George is right, kind of. But he still speaks of either/or rather than a synergistic both.

“Knowledge is not a Thing but a Relation” – George Kampis

A little bit about what are we going to do.

The Carteisan view suggests that knowledge is an entity.
The Anti-Cartesian view suggests that knowledge is NOT an entity.

Two concepts:
methodological individualism methodological anti-individualism

the indivudal is ~isolated the individual does not end at the surface of skin
complete incomplete

Anti-individualism often also called “externalism”. Physical or social reality is PART of human mind.
E.g. linguistic meaning is in the interaction of use; no meaning or represented knowledge possible in single individual.

Seemingly difficult concepts, but easy to understand in relational terms.

The Cartesian concept of the mind and knowledge suggests a detached view of knowledge.
Mostly the passive aspects of cognition (mental content, representation – note the word content)

The network view suggests an immersed concept of knowledge.
Typical for human societies in the past, more dynamic and interactive, person-based.

detached immersed

extractred situational
decontextualized contextual
distant “being there”
absolute relative
essential relational

HumanKnowledge Paradigm

The Minds

Posted in The Minds with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on September 15, 2010 by ellocogringo

 

Functional model of a normal brain
Plato’s Mobile


The purpose of this Blog is to propose a working model of the mind that accommodates both top down thinking (scientific method) and bottom up thinking (yoga) There will be no citations or references, this model being based entirely upon empirical reasoning and observation. Man has a unique brain, we have two cognitive minds, independent yet interconnected, and synchronous in nature. The left mind uses top down thinking in a binary network. IE true/false. This is the Aristotelian view of the world we are all familiar with. This is what distinguishes us from animals. It interprets the input of the right mind into terms that can be quantified and made more useful. (sound, time, color etc.) It is the “individuation”. It is dominant. It operates in the time domain. The right mind uses bottom up thinking in a weighted Boolean network. Possible results can be true/false/both/neither modulated by aggregate or accumulate input. This is the way an animal thinks. There is only now. This is the “connectedness”. This is the source of insight, creativity, “thinking outside the box”. It is sub-dominant. It operates in the frequency domain. Monitoring and regulating the synchronicity is the ANN (allocated neural network), wetware dedicated to comparing the results of the calculations performed by the left and right minds and flagging discrepancies by setting trigger points on the algorithms, a decision tree on each mind. This algorithm is what a psychologist would call a personality. Thus we have 3 ways of dealing with the world, dominant (left mind, skeptical) sub-dominate (right mind, receptive) and combined (“we’ll see”). This is no more complicated than putting on your doctor hat when you go to work, your wife/husband hat when at home, and your “we’ll see” hat in public. The remainder of the brain is the unANN dedicated to memory, dreaming, collating etc. Yoga (see footnote 1) is a framework that is useful for accessing this area. Rather like a neuron trellis. It can bypass the constraints imposed by the left mind to directly access all experience, the universe, as perceived by the individual. This is nirvana. Any thinking about the mind must start with the neuron. Simply put, the brain is a self programming amorphous mass of neurons. It is in the nature of the neuron to seek out, connect and communicate. Thus each mind is unique, as indeterminate as it is possible to get. Psychologists are trapped into trying to describe an indeterminate problem with logic suitable only for a determinate problem.

“The mind is elegant in it’s simplicity, incomprehensible in it’s scale, and glorious in it’s implementation.” el Loco Gringo

I use the term yoga as a generic term for various meditative techniques used to access the right hemisphere directly. 

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