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Wheels

Posted in Circular with tags , , , , , , on October 9, 2010 by ellocogringo

Time is central to holding together the power mode of ego. Yet…..what, exactly, does a clock measure? Nothing. It is an artificial structuring of the natural ebb and flow of the universe. In and of itself, that’s ok. It alows the synchronization of activities for maximum effect. BUT…………..we forget that “time” isn’t linear in reality, nor is it circular as the amerind worldview. It is fluid, depends on our experiencing of the universe. The universe just is, and is not required to adhere to our artificial attempts to control it, whether linear or circular.

I recently became interested in the aboriginal framework of reasoning. I have heard it described as circular reasoning.
Circular reasoning is an attempt to support a statement by simply repeating the statement in different or stronger terms. In this fallacy, the reason given is nothing more than a restatement of the conclusion that poses as the reason for the conclusion.
I don’t see it that way, I see it as “wheels within wheels” and not even “what goes around comes around” but “what goes around comes around goes around etc”. For instance a 260 day calendar would seem to make no sense unless one considers that the gestation period is 260 days. Thus if a woman conceived on Tzolkin 10 she could expect the birth on Tzolkin 10, As this was synchronized with the Haab (365 day calendar) no calculation was needed.

Occidental’s dominate thought mode is top down (left mind) Orientals dominate thought mode is bottom up (right mind) time to the right mind appears to be situational. Orientals have the same problem (mirrored) that we have in the west. IE whereas we have difficulty with connectness (bottom up), they have problems with analysis. (top down). In general this seems to be a determining factor in civilization, ie one or the other minds must be shut down to turn the populace into robots. This difference is illustrated by the response to communists in Singapore. They didn’t understand the war. “a thousand years from now no one will even know who the communists were” That’s a little too much connectedness to my way of thinking.

While circular time is certainly closer to reality than linear time. It is not reality. Reality, and reality only, is reality.

This imprinting is canabilastic in nature, like the zombie, it want’s to eat your brains. It is the Ayn Rand Beast.

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Spirals

Posted in Circular with tags , , , , , on September 8, 2010 by ellocogringo

Spirals

Collecting dots for later connecting. Click on images to enlarge.

What started me off on this was the sundagger. What rang my bell on this particular spiral was the nature of the carving. i.e. they were tracking two somethings. This carving wasn’t pre-surmised but a record of past occurances. What were they tracking?

Somehow this is related to the Mayan concept of time.

I recently became interested in the aboriginal framework of reasoning. I have heard iT described as circular reasoning.
Circular reasoning is an attempt to support a statement by simply repeating the statement in different or stronger terms. In this fallacy, the reason given is nothing more than a restatement of the conclusion that poses as the reason for the conclusion.

I don’t see it that way, I see it as “wheels within wheels” and not even “what goes around comes around” but “what goes around comes around goes around etc”. For instance a 260 day calendar would seem to make no sense unless one considers that the gestation period is 260 days. Thus if a woman conceived on Tzolkin 10 she could expect the birth on Tzolkin 10, As this was synchronized with the Haab (365 day calendar) no calculation was needed.

The same holds true of the Aztec Calandar. From 1000 BCE, most of Central America used similar types of calendars based on material objects and celestial constellations. The two most common calendars were the 260-day festival calendar and the 365-day solar calendar. The correlation between the two occurs every 52 years when both begin their new years. This is called the “Calendar Round” and the number became important in Central American cultures.

Incas seemed to follow the same pattern. The inca calendar day by day counting system was follow from observation stations, where all movements of the sun, moon, stars, solstice, equinox and all types of celestial phenomenons were observe, register and predicted; The inca observation stations are know today as Intihuatanas, but their real name is Intiguata, word that splits in Inti, that mean sun and Guata that mean year.

All other manifistations of the spiral were calculated. Maouri, hindi, golden ratio etc.

Ron Eglash has some interesting stuff to say on the topic African Fractals as does Edward Tregar. Crystal links is a cornucopia of data on the topic. That all of these things are related seems too obvious to mention. To say that it symbolizes the sun god, or repeating celestial patterns is trite. These are myths only, used to explain observations. The question remains, why? The chaco spirals are archetypical, more pristine observations, whereas the other spirals are stereotypical. Or, you could say, the others are a sub-set of the chaco spirals. I am not to the point of formulating an answer, I’m still working on the question. eLG has flagged the chaco spirals as an inconsistent consistency. It is after the fact. It is what was, not what is to be. You’ll never convince me that a people who could figure out the sundagger were incapable of a more esthetically pleasing carving. Does not compute.

“To wade through all the examples, the statements, and the speculations would entail very prolonged study, and need a diligent as well as a clear brain to escape utter confusion of memory. The process, however, even if nothing else came of it, would be very useful to those who, living in a narrow little world of their own interests, have no idea of the great rivers of thought that, unknown to them, are in far-off and little-known places bearing day and night their tribute to the ocean of human knowledge. Only one of these rivers—nay, a stream—can be approached in this paper, but my writing may tend to show not only how little I know, but also how little any other man knows about things close to us and regarded as common and devoid of interest”.Edward Tregear

Chaco Canyon was a “sacred place” WHY? The Maya had a sacred Island Cozumel. Why? Lookout mountain was considered a sacred place as was machu pichu. Why? It would appear that the chaco canyon spirals are primal with the others being copies. Wisdom was acquired at chaco canyon and transfered as knowledge to other places “not sacred”. What is different about chaco canyon, and cozumel, and lookout mountain from other places?

If you discount the myths as being effects rather than causes, not a lot is left. Could it be that these places were where things like the sundagger can occur? Astronomical necessity? I’m still formulating the question. What is unique?

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Brain Soup

Posted in Circular with tags , , , , , , , , on August 16, 2010 by ellocogringo

Inclusive <===> Collating —> Pathfinder

Amerind Iterative concept processing

Different from the western top down/bottom up processing which correlates non inconsistencies, the amerind concept processing appears to iterate between inclusive and collating modes until consistencies are exclusively resolved when it flips over to the pathfinder mode, presenting in an inclusive serial mode.

Fascinating.

Or………………….I could be full of shit, I am crazy, don’t you know

 

Iteration

Posted in TD/BU with tags , , , , on August 1, 2010 by ellocogringo

Iteration

The non-iteration nation

Mr Johnny got me thinking about circular reasoning. He used the word iterative. I like that. I did a search on circular thinking and came up with two totally different, mutual exclusive meanings. One that of the “science” of logic. which describes it as pathological. This view is total bullshit. The other view is diffuse, depending on circumstances. I will call this iterative.

Consider the following concepts, do not analyze them, that strips the meaning out. Just consider them. They all describe the same concept from different perspectives and different words are used.

According to circular thinking, it’s less useful to worry about how problems got started than to see them as reciprocal patterns of interaction, which can be corrected in the present, regardless of what happened in the past – parenting

It is not necessary that you hear and identify the notes you play, but rather that you play the right note written in the music at the right time.- music

You Cannot just “Name it and Claim it” you Need to know How the System Works – bible study

These patterns are examined to show whether certain patterns are viewed with positive or negative associations – hand signing

Assumptions can take you round and round and leave you where you started. To break out of circular thinking, we need real alternatives to our assumptions -turnarounds

If the plane’s flying backwards, reverse the pitch of the prop – eLG

People think backwards – Dennett

Ya gotta work the logic both ways – eLG

Consider “we eat sugar because it tastes good”, sounds reasonable. rational in fact, top down, serial, plug in whichever term you prefer. An Aristotelian view.

Now let’s work the logic both ways. “sugar tastes good because we eat it” totally irrational. That’s true, a null A view. But let’s assume that it is valid if irrational. Then we see that sugar is a good source of energy. Our brains became wired to give a pleasurable sensation when we eat sugar. That’s because we’re omnivores. Sugar has no taste to carnivores. Charlie Chimp had rotten fruit in his diet. We gained this insight by applying bottom up logic to the top down statement.

So, I posit that circular reasoning occurs in the left mind, which accepts no new data. mental masturbation. Round and round we go. Iterative thinking occurs in the right mind, which aggressively accumulates and correlates new data. So the right mind iterates, i.e. resolves an issue, sets the “shortcut” on the right algorithm, then goes around again to reassess the unresolved data using the new “shortcut” as an assumption. This process repeats until all the issues are resolved. An upticking of wisdom, to be stored as knowledge. The iterim results are set as a “shortcut” on the left algorithm as “best answer to date” If this function is shut down, the person is an idiot (in the clinical sense) incapable of innovation. Unfortunately, the majority of western civilization.

Consider the cash register, we press the 1 key and the + key and the 1 key and =. the answer pops up as 2. So we assume that pressing these keys in this sequence “proves” that 1+1=2. If we work the logic both ways we see that the leaf that pops up that says 2 is dependent on which keys are pressed. It doesn’t matter what is printed on the keys or leaf. This “proof” is an artifact.

The Aristotelian brain fart. A traffic circle with no roads in or out. A freeway with no on or off ramps. Round and round we go, and where we stop everyone knows. We’ve got a hurricane blowing through the windmills of our minds. Damn it ted, you’ve infected my thinking, somehow a post just doesn’t seem complete without a hurricane in it somewhere.

The animation at the top is really good for what I’m trying to describe. There’s an animation for your “abductive engine” Mr Johnny. That’s the way it works. Damn, that ouija pusher sure scoots around, doesn’t it?

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